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  fecha: 02 | 04 | 2008
  hora: 3:15 pm

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  Que la OTAN se equivoco con sus anteriores ampliaciones es algo evidente e indiscutible, ampliando sus fronteras abrió sus puertas a los enemigos de los valores , principios y derechos que quería defender, abrió sus puertas a los enemigos del modelo de sociedad que decía querer construir, abrió sus puertas a los enemigos de la seguridad y estabilidad que quería garantizar y que justificaba su existencia.

  La OTAN esta en estos momentos desbocada, a perdido el rumbó y tiene confundida su razón de ser, encontrándose en manos de grupos de interés y de poder internacionales que confunden sus verdaderos objetivos y fundamentos.

  El Presidente de los Estados Unidos de Norteamérica , George Bush, proponiendo, apoyando , casi forzando la entrada de Ucrania y Georgia se vuelve a equivocar en sus decisiones como en los primeros meses de su mandato. No es necesario disponer de amplios conocimientos de política internacional para entenderlo, simplemente hace falta conocer las estructuras de poder de esos países, su forma de actuar esta muy , pero que muy lejos de lo que es deseable, aceptable y defendido por la mayoría y mas representativos países de la OTAN.

  Hace poco el ex presidente ruso , Vladimir Putin afirmaba textualmente “ «da la impresión de que se intenta crear una organización llamada a sustituir a la ONU, pero la humanidad no aceptará semejante estructura de las relaciones internacionales, que solo incrementará el potencial de conflictos». «La OTAN ya rebasa los marcos de su competencia. No tenemos nada en contra de ayudar a Afganistán, pero la pregunta es ¿por qué es la OTAN la que lo hace? Éste no es un problema de la OTAN, y todos lo entienden». Acertada afirmación , mediante la OTAN determinados grupos de poder están haciendo desmesuradas demostraciones de poder con las cuales la gente de la calle , como se suele decir coloquialmente , no sabemos que intentan lograr, atemorizar , conquistar, a quien y para que.

  La OTAN, repito, esta desbocada, creo que es el adjetivo mas adecuado para definir su actuación , y lo mas grave es que ya no garantiza aquello para lo que fue concebida, la seguridad , la estabilidad, los derechos humanos, y la libertad , y por lo tanto la paz dentro de las fronteras que como estructura militar defensiva debería de defender.

  Esperamos que el Presidente de Estados Unidos se haya percatado de la realidad de lo que ocurre, que aunque no es muy difícil , a veces lo evidente , lo que salta a la vista nos ciega, y recapacite en su apoyo a Ucrania y Georgia, pues lo que hace falta es un plan de acción para impedir su ingreso por razones de seguridad, de estabilidad y de defensa de los derechos humanos.

  Pero además también hay poderosas razones económicas , de las que no parecen percatarse los dirigentes de los países que desean ingresar en la Alianza Atlántica, pues la entada de estos países en la OTAN va ha suponer un enfrentamiento con Rusia , país del que depende en gran mediada su economía , energéticamente, comercialmente,….. ¿ Va la Unión Europea a afrontar las penurias económicas que esto represente?, parece difícil que así sea con la que ya esta cayendo. Por lo tanto soy de la opinión de que también dichos países, Ucrania y Georgia, deberían recapacitar, y retrasar hasta momentos mas lógicos y razonables su ingreso.
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  Daniel

  fecha: 22 | 07 | 2008
  hora: 5:53 pm

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  No estoy de acuerdo en absoluto.Ucrania y Georgia quieren entrar en la OTAN para dejar de ser colonias rusas y es legítimo que lo hagan.

  Afganistán es una batalla contra el terrorismo internacional muy diferente de la de Irak.Si los terroristas están allí débiles no los tendremos atentando en Occidente tanto y de paso arreglaremos un país sumido en el caos.

  Añado aquí este post(Es parte en Inglés , pero supongo que es válido):Rusia dice que EEUU mintió en no ampliar la OTAN,pero Rusia dijo que sacaría a sus tropas de Europa.¿Quién mintió?
  Supuestamente EEUU se comprometió a no ampliar la OTAN cuando cayó la Unión Soviética , pero Rusia también se comprometió a sacar sus tropas de Europa y no lo hizo ya que todavía tiene tropas en Bielorrusia (También llamada Belarús) , Ucrania , Moldavia (Igualmete conocida como Moldova) , Georgia , Armenia , además de un radar en Azerbayán hasta 2012.Esto sin contar con el que muchos no saben que también es en parte europeo Cazajistán que además de tropas rusas tiene la base espacial rusa de Baikonur.

  Partiendo del hecho de que EEUU no dijo la verdad de no ampliar la OTAN ya que ha sido megaampliada al este , incluso a las puertas de Rusia , podemos decir que EEUU ha traicionado su promesa a Rusia.Sin embargo un tarto requiere del cumplimeiento de las partes implicadas y al no cumplir Rusia su parte de sacar sus torpas de Europa , EEUU quedó libre de cumplir su parte.A día de hoy todavía Rusia mantiene tropas en los citados países , o en todo caso instalaciones controladas por Rusia.

  Suppossedly the USA committed in not extending NATO when the Soviet Union fell down , but Russia also commited in taking troops out of Europe & didn’t do it since still has troops in Byelorussia (Also called Belarus) , UKraine , Moldavia (As well called Moldova) , Georgia , Armenia , furthermore has a radar in Azerbaijan till 2012.This without counting with the country many don’t know is also in part european Cazakhstan that as well as Russian troops it has the Russian Space Base of Baikonur.

  Starting from the fact tha the USA didn’t tell the truth for extending NATO since it has been megaextended toward East , including to the doors of Russia , we can say the USA have betrayed its promise with Russia.Nevertheless a pact requires acomplishment from all signing parts & since Russia didn’t take out troops of Europe ,the USA were freed from keeping its part.Today Russia still has troops in the cited countries , or anyway installations controlled by Russia. For me inspite of the collapse of USSR & “Color Revolutions” Russia is getting stronger & more nationalist & still is an Empire since it was called that way until the Soviet Union was created. Moreover when Russia started as an independent country (free from the Mongols) started being called when just had a small part of its current European part (Before reaching the Urals). In Soviet times the USSR claimed to be anti-imperialist but it was imperialist. Half of the current Germany , Poland , Czecoslovakia (Current countries of Czec Republic & Slovakia) , Hungary , Yugoslavia (Current countries of Slovenia , Croatia , Bosnia , Serbia , Montenegro & Macedonia) , Romania , Bulgaria , Mongolia , Vietnam , Cuba , Albania & many other communist countries in the World were supposed to be independent countries but they were controlled by Moscow. So they were colonies & the Soviet Union the Mother Country. Within the Soviet Union the 15 Republics (But Russia) were in reality internal colonies since every one of the Republics were independent (well , not exactly in the form & limits they received by Stalin politics) : The Khanate of Khiva in Central Asia around Soviet times , the independent Kievan Rus (Current Ukraine) , the Lithuanian-Polish Kingdom (Owned Ukraine & Belarus)…Anyway , the Soviet Union was an Empire and an Imperialist. Russia wants to own once again Ukraine thru its Russian base in Sebastopol (This base closed by 2017). As well since the democratic “Orange Revolution” Russian radars in Ukraine are not worthy anymore to be trust so they will be closed within few years. In Georgia Russia tries hard as well to dominate it thru “Pacification” Russian troops installed in the independentist Ossetia & Abkhasia. In Moldova Russian troops are installed in the independentist Region of Transdnistria. Turning back to Ukraine , Russia also tries to instigate separatism in Eastern Russian speaking regions & Crimea where is Sebastopol. Who gave Russia power to say these today democratic pro-NATO countries they are substantial parts of Russia itself? Nobody!

  Russia also has the important space base of Baikonur in Kazakhstan. As well it has 2 military bases in Armenia & a radar in Azerbaijan (Till 2012). There’s a conflict because the Armenian province of Nagorno-karabakh is inside Azerbaijan. Russia “intermediates” between them thru the Umbrella of Commonwealth of Independent States (C.I.S.) . This CIS is a colonial organization used by Russia to sojourn its colonies.

  Russia had an agreement with the USA that NATO wouldn’t get extended toward East while Russia would take its troops out of European countries. As I just mentioned the precedent European or half European countries (Kazakhstan has a small European part westward River Ural ) have either Russian troops or Russian military facilities. When one of the parts doesn’t keep an agreement the other is not either committed to keep the agreement. Russia says the USA betrayed Russia for extending NATO toward East with Poland , Czekia , Slovakia , Slovenia , Hungary , Estonia , Latvia , Lithuania , Romania & Bulgaria. I disagree with Russia since Russia Didn’t take its troops out of the European mentioned countries , at least from the ones that want Russian troops & bases to leave their territories like Ukraine , Moldova , Georgia & Azerbaijan .

  In the totally Asian countries Russia has troops in Tajikistan , Kyrgyzstan , & Turkmenistan (or Uzbekistan) . All of this probes Russia is an imperialist .Chechnya & other republics should be independent as they were about a century ago thru centuries.That’s why Russia is an Empire.

  China is another Empire since it was that way till the beginning oh the 20th century. Inner Mongolia province should be given back to Mongolia. Xinjiang which is a Turkish speaking Muslim province should be independent like the other Turkish countries in Central Asia as not long ago was independent, Tibet also should be independent since it was conquered by “the non-imperialist Maoist China” in the 50’s! China is an Empire. Its Chinese colonizers in South East Asia have lot of power in these countries.

  Central Asian countries during the “Silk Road” time were very influenced by China and now they are like colonies within the Shanghai Cooperation Organization because of the shared Chinese-Russian leadership. These countries are rich in hydrocarbons (gas & oil) . The S.C.O. want to take westerners & Japan out of Central Asia to blackmail them with energy.

  Turning back to China , this country is starting dominating African resources competing against the West. China treats African countries as colonies at least as much as westerners , but the West is the only guilty for extreme leftists & others.

  Besides Russia & China there’s a 3rd Evil Empire that denies the Jew Holocaust. This is Iran. Since Iran is mostly Shiite wants to control all Shiites in surrounding countries. For example in the South of Iraq thru Al-Sadr’s army , in the Persian Gulf with the Shiite minorities , in Palestine thru its financed organization Hamas , in Lebanon thru Syrian agents and the Shiite organization Hezbollah . Iran want to make Israel disappear . Russia wants also to install a base in a Syrian Mediterranean port. Turning back to Iran , it was called Persia not long time ago. Since Iran has so many historical ethnical groups inside and coincides with the former imperial limits , Iran is an Empire.

  Some could say the USA is an Empire but never was it and is very homogenous while these three nations are not.

  Iran has Azerbaijanies , Turkmens , Arabs , Balochies , Kurds … In theory Iran is an observer of SCO but many say is a current member & I would say is a leading with China & Russia since influences also in the Central Asian Muslim countries China is about to make a base in Ecuador when the Americans leave the one in Manta (in 2009). So it is China willing to build one in Iran’s coast.

  RUSSIA NEVER WAS SO WEEK BUT SO STRONG

  (Went weaker but comes back stronger)

  In Stallin’s time Russia within the USSR controlled not just the USSR republics but the “Warsaw Pact” states thru out the World. As well at 1st China was in its Sphere of influence , for being also Communist , but they sign up for an association nor for cooperation agreement.

  This friendship between the USSR (handled by Russia) & China broke up a little later. As well the once being a World potence (Power) with influence in countries all over the World (Outside the Pact of Warsaw) like Cuba , North Korea , Vietnam , Libya , Ethiopia & others , Russia lost all of it with the collapse of USSR plus 14 internal republics of Soviet Union(The Evil Empire) . This was confirmed with “Color Revolutions” in Ukraine (2004) , Georgia (2003) & Kyrgyzstan (2005) . Also with approaching the West by Azerbaijan & Moldova plus joining NATO Estonia , Latvia , Lithuania , Poland , Czekia , Slovakia , Slovenia , Hungary , Romania & Bulgaria .

  These loses for Russia were big ones but at the same time were ballast (Since Russia had a big load for maintaining troops , bases and supporting in part their economies) dropped by Russia. In this way Russia was freer economically since incomes were almost totally for recovering itself. And how it did it!

  Russia now is recuperating its economy , modernizing its army , elevating its population life level & improving in technologies & weappons. It has missiles able to destroy the American anti-missile shild (The one the USA is projecting to install in Poland Czekia & maybe in Lithuania) . I wonder why does Russia wines at the USA.

  Now it has , since 2005 , a consolidated alliance with China & $ Central Asian countries called the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in which Iran is an observer (For sure is leading member like China & Russia , since they don’t press harder in the Security Counsel of UN toward Iran for its nuclear program )

  China has “secret” hidden Nuke bases in the depth of the see next to Hainan Island. China is also about to build in Iran & in Ecuador (In 2009) when the Americans leave its base in the Ecuadorian city of Manta. In the Asian South East countries there is a big Chinese diaspora thru which China manages in part these goverments. China is also a new actor in Africa competing with the West countries in dominating it & its resources .

  China is a really strong economy in the World backwards than it was during Mao’s times. China is also very updated in weappons & computer technologies .

  Iran is about to have nuke weappons (If don’t have them already). Is a big influence in the Great Middle East countries especially thru Shiites . Countries like Qatar , Iraq , Lebanon , Syria & Palestine thru Hamas or even Afghanistan. It’s also a giant gas producer as well as oil producer. The S.C.O. countries want to balckmail the West with their future gas cartel like OPEC is for oil.

  Never Iran nor China were so strong in so many fields: military , economic , technologic …

  Russia never was so powerful itself & since its new allies within the SCO are so storng as much as are tge Westerners while in Soviet times they were not allies (Just Iran a little bit but not as much as is inside SCO) Neither were able to really counter West countries .

  Russia is also friend with the very armed Belarus (The last dictatorship of Europe according to the USA & the European Union) , the very armed Venezuela (Rich in oil) , Bolivia (Rich in gas) , Ecuador (Rich in oil) & Cuba. These countries are friends with F.A.R.C. which is friends with E.T.A. & with Nicaragua & Dominica. Cuba , Venezuela , Nicaragua , Bolivia & Dominica Form an anti-American alliance (All of them are extreme leftists) . This alliance is called Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas (B.A.P.O) or A.L.B.A.( Alternativa Bolivariana para América Latina y el Caribe , which also means ‘dawn’ in Spanish) .

  In fact we can say Russia gets along with 2 anti-American alliances: The SCO in the East (Asia & part of Europe) & the ALBA in the West (The Americas) .

  Because of the many things I said above & other agreements Russia & its allies have in the World , we can say without any doubt Russia & its allies are more powerful than never before in history in most of matters , at least in most of influenciable ones.